Marks and Spencer think Rabbits are the only animals skinned alive in China!

Truth is Angora Rabbits are the lucky ones!!! 

Compared to >>  http://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=skinned%20alive

18/12/13 To: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.com

So why the discrepancies between your definition of fur as "including the pelt" and the 
 M & S labeling in the Indigo range? 

Is it because you don't actually know? 

You need to get those products scientifically tested and an approved mark on them or take them off the shelves because you cannot guarantee they are not products of extreme torture!

 http://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=skinned%20alive 

http://philsreport.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/marks-and-spencer-think-rabbits-are.html

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:28:36 +0000
From: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.com
To: phil70@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: M&S ref:1-458778702/LS

Dear Mr/Ms Brindley

Thank you for your email. As stated previously, we do not condone animal cruelty, as per our animal welfare policy.

Animal Welfare is extremely important to Marks & Spencer, and we are working constantly to ensure that we are a standard against which other retailers are measured. Regarding our policies surrounding fur or animal based textiles, I hope the below will clarify our stance on this matter:

Real Fur - We do NOT permit the use of any animal fur on our products where the animal has been killed solely for its fur. We would still allow real sheepskins to be used, as long as they are bought as a by-product of the meat industry.

Down/Feathers - In the case of bird feathers and down, there should be NO live plucking of feathers. The feathers/down should be sourced as a by-product of the meat industry (as per leather).

Leather/Suede - Skins/Hides should be sourced ONLY as a by-product of the meat industry. Following animal welfare concerns, Marks & Spencer currently does NOT permit the use of Indian Cow leather which has been tanned from Indian hides. Other species are much less affected; however, we will continue to examine the treatment of other animal species and will take whatever action we consider is appropriate.

Angora wool - The alternative methods that would be acceptable are shearing or clipping. Live plucking is not acceptable.

We are committed to trading as a responsible retailer, which means we ensure our suppliers adhere strictly to our animal welfare policies as a condition of doing business with us. We are confident that all of our suppliers are acting within these guidelines, but we will continue to closely monitor them in future to ensure our policies remain at the forefront of their practices.

We currently do not stock any ‘fur’ items in our range. All of our fur is faux fur. I’m afraid we have done our very best to explain our policies and stringent practices surrounding animal based textiles, and we are unable to offer you any further information regarding this matter.

Phil Brindley

15:27 

To: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.c

In your Indigo coat range you have a product called - 'Mole' - Ind Aurora - Unlike the rest of your Indigo range it doesn't say on it "This product contains no real animal fur". Being as you "define fur as animal skin with pelt intact" does that mean the fur trim on this and your other clothes are actually from animals in China THAT HAVE A VIRTUALLY 100% CHANCE OF BEING SKINNED ALIVE?

17/12/2013
To: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.com

I'm totally insulted by your 'standard reply' to a very serious issue that you are obviously not taking seriously. ALL FUR PRODUCTS ARE TORTURED IN CHINA AND YOUR INSPECTIONS WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. ITS ON M&S!!! UNTIL EVERY M&S SHOPPER KNOWS WHAT SCUM YOU ARE TO TRADE WITH CHINA TO SQUEEZE OUT PROFIT FROM TORTURING ANIMALS!!!!!!!

18/12/2013

To: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.com

You state "We define fur as animal skin with pelt intact" You can not be remotely sure these animals were not skinned alive. Some of your fur clothing (coats) still say made in china with fur and is not even labelled which species they came from! You don't even know where, when, how or what in relation to it's origin. Absolutely disgraceful trading!!

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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:07:20 +0000
From: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.com
To: phil70@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: M&S ref:1-458778702/LS

Dear Mr/Ms Brindley

Thank you for taking the time to get back in touch. I am sorry to hear you were unhappy in my earlier response. Since our last correspondence there have been some developments regarding this matter which may be of further assurance and interest to you.

Recently we've met with representatives from PETA. We listened to their views and understand the concerns they have with regards to Angora farming. We explained that M&S has a strict animal welfare policy and is committed to the responsible sourcing of raw materials. We do not use any fur in our products, it is unacceptable within our supply chain. We define fur as animal skin with pelt intact. The alternative methods that would be acceptable are shearing or clipping. Live plucking is not acceptable. If we found a supplier using this technique then we would take immediate action to address the situation.

Our animal welfare policy does not allow for any live plucking or tethering in our supply chain and we believe that it is being adhered to across the Angora farms from which we source. We are now undertaking additional visits to these farms to be absolutely sure that this is the case.

Additionally, we are not currently making any clothes containing Angora Wool, as these are typically Autumn / Winter products. We will not  place any further orders with our suppliers for products containing Angora Wool until we have concluded our visits to farms. We’ll keep our customers updated as we progress.

I will ensure your comments are reported to our Policy team for their consideration.

Many thanks for contacting us.

Kind regards

Simon Hoskins
Executive Office
Your M&S Customer Service
Tel: 020 7935 4422
Email: chairman@customersupport.marksandspencer.com
Website: www.marksandspencer.com
Address:
Executive Office
Chester Business Park
Wrexham Road
Chester
CH4 9GA

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Registered office: Waterside House, 35 North Wharf Road, London, W2 1NW
Registered Number: 214436 (England and Wales)

Thats a standard letter you send to everyone. ALL TRADE WITH CHINA HAS TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE THEY SKIN ALL FUR ANIMALS ALIVE!!!!!!


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Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:00:59 +0000
From: retailcustomer.services@customersupport.marksandspencer.com
To: phil70@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Your M&S Ref: 1-458778702/HM


Dear Mr/Ms Brindley
Thank you for taking the time to contact us about our angora products.
We put animal welfare at the heart of our business and are committed to the responsible sourcing of raw materials, including Angora Wool. Our animal welfare policy does not allow for any live plucking or tethering in our supply chain and we believe that it is being adhered to across the Angora farms from which we source. We are now undertaking additional visits to these farms to be absolutely sure that this is the case.
Additionally, we will not place any further orders with our suppliers for products containing Angora Wool until we have concluded our visits to farms.
I hope you can take assurance in our policies, and continue to shop with us in the future.
Kind regards
Simon Hoskins
Retail Cutsomer Services
Your M&S Customer Service
Tel: 0845 302134
Website: www.marksandspencer.com
Address: Retail Cutsomer Services
Chester Business Park
Wrexham Road
Chester
CH4 9GA



On 10/12/2013 08:42, Phil Brindley wrote:
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I'm hearing rumors that you have stopped importing tortured angora fur from china. If this is the case along with stopping the future sales of all other Asian fur which is virtually all skinned alive I will gladly start shopping at M&S again along with many other people I know. Could you please confirm if your buying policy has changed for the better?
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Phil Brindley